Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. This makes the work morally ambiguous in ways some readers will resist: I suspect that not everybody will recognize blackness as any part, even a rejected part, of Trump, a man whose loathing of black people seems unabashed. So I really could not afford to do the kind of art I wanted to do in graduate school. Ginsbergs comrades sang out of their windows in despair, jumped in the filthy Passaic, leaped on negroes, and danced on broken wineglasses barefoot smashed phonograph records. The white bohemians have the freedom to go on benders and sprees, while Hayes must wonder how to hold my face. He is not afraid of looking goofy; he is afraid of being murdered. Are there particular ideas that you gravitate toward or that have influenced you? I read To Autumn by Keats, and I was like, This is blowing my mind! In other cases, such as Hayes, Rosenblum wouldnt directly determine whether a retrial is warranted, but as the states chief legal officer her decision would set a precedent that others would likely follow. TAYLOR: And then there's these other moments where it's really unclear who he's talking to. Since this means there will be no classes for the rest Bridging those things is my natural way of thinking, and I think of that as a collage. Reverting to childhood may be an impossibility, but it is the solitary unquestionable way to recuperate unblemished happiness . Every time I tried to bring it up with my friends, they were like, Man, what are you talking about? I didnt expect everyone to want to talk to me about it. As a poet, you know your limitations, and those limitations are the form of the person or the poet. Anything else connected to that is just gravy. All rights reserved (About Us). In fact, I tried to do that, all the contemporary poetry books and the books on the Pitt Press, because I assumed that everybody else had. My attitude is to split the difference. Trending. in their lockers & hustle to the windows to stare. But Id say thats always been true. Ive realized that my students definitely need to be praised and encouraged, but my method goes back, again, to the way I write my own poems. But his felony excludes him from better-paying federal contracts, he said. "Hayes's fourth book puts. For my poetry, I havent had the prize that makes me feel like Im secure and dont need to write another good poem. TH: One thing that people say is that were creating robots, and students are just writing the same poems. There never was a black male hysteria, a poem about Emmett Till begins, because a fret of white men drove you crazy/Or a clutch of goons drove you through Money,/Stole your money, paid you money, stole it again. In Money, Mississippi, where Till was lynched, Hayes finds in miniature the economic formula that has been scaled up successfully across America: black men are paid with money stolen from their ancestors, only to have it again taken away from them. You've got the soundtrack. I didnt write a lot of poems as an undergrad, but I was always working on them. I also was in track and field. The former Presidents political and legal challenges are mounting, even as some polls indicate that he still has a lot of support among Republicans. The New York School poets are interesting to me for their immediacy; New York School culture is about being present and being in the moment. The issue of retroactivity is a legal doctrine that was specifically not decided by the Ramos decision, said Rosenblum spokesperson Kristina Edmunson. The poet Terrance Hayes first arrived on the scene in 1999 with a book called "Muscular Music." (Courtesy of Lynn James-Jackson), POST-CONVICTION RELIEF: CHANCE FOR RETRIAL. I dont know; I hope not. Terrance Hayes is the author of six poetry collections: American Sonnets for My Past And Future Assassin, a finalist for the National Book Award, National Book Critics Circle Award, and TS Eliot Prize; How to Be Drawn ; Lighthead, winner of the 2010 National Book Award for poetry; Muscular Music, recipient of the Kate Tufts Discovery Award; Hip JW: You do sometimes talk about race and recent politics. The girls are eager to transform him with a kiss; the boys eager It was my first time hearing it. This thing Im writing is, after all, also called a review. Instead, Rosenblum is choosing to litigate these post-conviction relief cases in civil court until the Oregon Supreme Court delivers a ruling on whether Ramos applies to past cases. Whats going to be left out? I didnt know what happened on the other side of college. JW: Is there a tension between form or aesthetic value and identity? On the other hand, it has to be gratifying. In his quiet Southeast Portland townhouse, Jackson said he can walk outside and hear the birds and the woodpeckers. Poetry is the end for me. He was a Professor of Creative Writing at Carnegie Mellon University until 2013, at which time he joined the faculty at the English Department at the University of Pittsburgh. He was the type of professor whose house youd visit, and all my family had met him before he passed. SHAPIRO: Tess Taylor sharing Terrance Hayes's new collection called "American Sonnets From My Past And Future Assassin." Terrence Hayes is known for Abe & Phil's Last Poker Game (2017), Knives Out (2019) and Manchester by the Sea (2016). June 25, 2018. Thats the Stephen King end of things. So if someone asked, Are you writing poems about race or Pittsburgh? Id say, No, Im writing poems about poetry.. of the ball and chain around . The challenge is to convince students that thats viable. Or maybe they wont. Menu. JW: One downside with the glut of information now is that theres no stable core of references. Do you see paintings as a puzzle? Trumpet reinforces. The reason I used them is because I could get a big box of tiles for like five dollars. And SHAPIRO: We should tell people that Terrance Hayes is a black poet, and blackness - and maleness comes up a lot in these poems. Its unclear how the court will rule. In fact, you were a painter before you were a poet. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. His claim of self-defense was rejected by a jury that convicted him, 10-2, of attempted murder, assault and unlawful use of a. But when the time came and I looked at studio arts, I couldnt afford it. In my ignorance, though, that meant I was majoring in fine arts, and I was taking writing. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. What I would say to him is that I was just trying to build up a surface. Born in 1971 in Columbia, SC, Hayess mother was a corrections officer and father a military barber. That figure is just moving around. And I think, if I was really trying to fully capture consciousness, I would have to leave poems. Sometimes they seem eclecticwith references from pop culture to high artbut your motivation is toward synthesis. I think he could just sit down, listen to some music every day, and feel like he could make an interesting poem. You kill me can be a compliment. Like a coin toss that keeps coming up heads, iterated titles suggest an occult lucky streak bound to break. TAYLOR: Well, again, it's interesting in that poem that I just read where he says, assassin, you are a mystery to me, I say to my reflection sometimes. The day after the 2016 Presidential election, Terrance Hayes wrote the first of the seventy sonnets collected in his new book, American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin. Time had been altered in some baleful and uncertain way; the sonnet offered an alternative unit of measurement, at once ancient, its basic features unchanged for centuries, and urgent, its fourteen lines passing at a brutal clip. All rights reserved. 95 / 100 At Pegasus So maybe thats a form of ambivalence. I mean, what does he accomplish by doing this? To go back the other way, when Im talking to someone whos sixty-five, and Im making a reference to Future and saying its a song about strip clubs, Im still saying its interesting. Dont you want to see me eat it too? Every time Im flying out of Pittsburgh, I see your picture in the airport, with Pitt advertising, Come study with a genius. How do you feel about your position? But now theres digital or social media, which people like my daughter are very aware of. Rosenblum, who initially spoke in favor of repealing the law, eventually filed a brief in Ramos v. Louisiana opposing the U.S. Supreme Court overturning split jury verdicts. He now has a new book out called "American Sonnets For My Past And Future Assassin," and here to talk with us about it is our reviewer Tess Taylor. When I worked on it, after not having looked at it for two years, I decided it was still bad, and I was cool with that. I didnt know a poem could do that. I continually want to make the last poem more interesting. I did help start the Center for African American Poetry and Poetics, which is important in archiving poetry, but most of my concerns, over eighty percent, go toward teaching. JW: Related to art, theres been a lot of critical writing about postmodernism and different kinds of theories, and you mentioned Benjamin. TH: Or I might have become a high school English teacher. If I dont do something about this, then they still have to deal with all the stigmas that come with a father with a violent history, he said. Im not sure how to hold my face when I dance, he writes: In an expression of determination or euphoria?. By Dan Chiasson. Youre not as fixed in one position. I was a visual artist, too, so I got offers from Savannah College of Design, but they didnt have any sports, and they didnt give me enough money. Allen Grossman said, when people ask, What are your poems about? he says, Poetry, the subject is always poetry. I find that to be very useful as a maker of poems, even though thats frustrating for readers. Some of them want that, but they dont know what it looks like or know enough about the template for becoming a successful writer, so they wind up writing really interesting things all the time. out of the ring of fire around. He envies poets who have the luxury of wandering into all corners of American life. Ishion Hutchinson, Post-Postcolonial Poet. to see him on the basketball court. That poem is also a conversation about whether you have to choose a side. This interview took place on June 24 and July 1, 2016, in Pittsburgh. And theres a lot of ways to choose a side. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. I was in a space where people had read lots, and I felt like I had to go to the library and read everything in it. He attended Coker College on a basketball scholarship, but explored painting and poetry and, encouraged by an English professor there and the poet Toi Derricotte, went to the University of Pittsburgh for an MFA in Creative Writing. JW: I like the essays more than the fiction. Americas struggle with itselfHas always had people like me at the heart of it. Terrance Hayes is the author of Wind in a Box (Penguin 2006), Hip Logic (Penguin 2002) and Muscular Music (Carnegie Mellon University Contemporary Classics, 2005 and Tia Chucha Press, 1999). The you, now & then of the last line is, I take it, the reader and also the assassin. What does it mean to say only certain people? Is it also a little gimmicky (ph)? Are you making a landscape or a figure drawing when you put the puzzle together? My job in the university is simple: Im a teacher. But if I find a flaw, I feel myself coming up against a statement like that. Created by Grove Atlantic and Electric Literature, My grandfather was a war veteran; my dad was in the army; my brother was in the army. Thelonious Monk says there is no failure, theres only rehearsal and practice. Jackson said he was immediately upset when he learned of Rosenblums objection to allowing Ramos type cases to be retried, especially her statement on the potential impacts on the states legal system. None of those were affected by the Ramos decision. Born in Columbia, South Carolina, Terrance Hayes earned a BA at Coker College and an MFA at the University of Pittsburgh. After Ive done a poem, then I can think about it as a piece of the puzzle and as a part of this whole thing, as opposed to writing one poem at a time, and when I get to twenty poems or forty poems, I have a book. I know you paint and have for a long time. Terrence Hayes was 19 when he shot a man in the leg in 2004. Hayess talkative poems are, in fact, a form of thinking, fuelled by opposing impulses and contradictory ideas. JW: I want to ask about your background and how you came to do poetry. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. To me, the conversation is done once I choose a side. Sign up for the Books & Fiction newsletter. So an experimental workshop asks, Why were you trying to do this? You write a poem, and you think its a failed poem, but maybe its a draft, and you just keep going onto the next poem. If other people are eating it, thats fine, but this is your job. To me, personality is getting close to something like transparency. In my last year, I had done a series of paintings on ceiling tiles. Maybe youll try this? And maybe well generate poems that arent done or finished, but at least weve made something new. Responding to the person in front of you and their potential and interests, and challenging those potentials and interests, seem to me benchmarks for a program. Copyright 2018 NPR. Hayes, who is forty-six, won the 2010 National Book Award and is a professor at N.Y.U. Sometimes it seems like the New York School, but at other times, its very different. Who those people are, I dont really think too much about that. As he remarks in this interview, he resists being tied to one adjective to describe himself as a poet. How do you see that affecting creative writing programs? In Multnomah County, where Blacks are 6% of the population, they represent 45.3% of petitioners. JW: And the decision is how big the table is. Each one is called "American Sonnet For My Past And Future Assassin" - almost identical as the title of the collection. Probably twilight makes blackness dangerous. Edmunson said if the office chose to do as people are suggesting, it would not be based on the current state of the law either federal or state.. gas. TH: Thats Baraka. JW: I want to come back to how you reflect upon your own success, but first I want to ask about your relation to art. There are no doubt different kinds of programs, but what do you think makes a good program, and what makes a bad program? Something happened. So for someone to say this is your audience and you have to give people the thing theyll really eat, Im saying you dont know what peoples capacity is. In his poems, in which he occasionally invents formal constraints, Hayes considers themes of popular culture, race, music, and masculinity. Convicted of robbery, kidnapping and burglary by 11-1 and 10-2 jury votes, he was sentenced to 34 years in prison. frog waiting patiently at the front gate. Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Top 250 TV Shows Most Popular TV Shows Most Popular Video Games Most Popular Music Videos Most Popular Podcasts. Then it was three years, and I was done. But for myself, I try not to think about it too much. Theyre also about identity, and some of them talk about race explicitly. Ad Choices. Currently a MacArthur Fellow, Hayes synthesizes disparate elements in his work: classical forms like the sonnet; popular culture references from hip-hop to Scooby-Doo; comments on race, especially African-American experience; modes such as the Japanese business presentation slide series pecha kucha; and reflections on fatherhood and family. He was a Yankee and he was generally bored and impatient with everything about the South, but he liked me and he thought I was special. In his five books, he has perfected a sort of poem where wild jams carom inside arbitrary formal boundaries. NPR's Ari Shapiro speaks with poetry reviewer, Tess Taylor about Terrance Hayes' new collection American Sonnets for my Past and Future Assassin. I feel like thats something I cant do: the canvas is not big enough to fully capture consciousness in a poem. Whether they will be able to change that depends on one unanswered question: Does the Supreme Courts decision apply retroactively to past cases? I dont think anybody is just a poet with no adjectives. Her office is handling petitions for relief from Jackson and hundreds of others seeking retrials. It seems more ambivalent, too. When he left the Oregon State Penitentiary two decades later, he had grandchildren. I knew that was my only course of action, Jackson said. Trumpet: . And somehow, I think it's a form that is able to capture and refract, like, the mysterious forcefulness of American violence right now. 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